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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Feb 16, 2010 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1987-05-02.schoeps.grace.gems.105509.flac16

Reviewer: Longnstrange - - February 16, 2010
Subject: why no reviews of the best shows?
Sorry if I am breaking an unspoken rule of heads to keep the best shit secret. Or is it just silly to try to put words to some things. Here I go; Buffalo?, Cornwell?, Winterland?... Screw that. The Dead were at their best as a complete band right here in the spring/summer of "87. THIS is the best China/Rider they ever played. Good dress rehersal for 6/20/87 (best show ever). Yep, it's all opinion. Or is it just that the masses don't KNOW what it was like to be in the Frost or Greek Theater shows. If you are on the hunt for the good stuff, give this a try. Even if you ever dissed the eighties, I think we can all enjoy this now. Once again, one of the best on the archives and NO REVIEW!?

YEAH, why no review?

TOOTMO

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Feb 16, 2010 8:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

OOPS! Found a review by jboy:

The BOYZ are back at the COLD AMPHIBIAN and the Northern Lights are shooting farther south then ever before. The BOYZ open up with Crowd/tuning and I can tell it is not going to be the usual left coast carpet ride! With the first strum at 0:56, Phillie Steak-n-No-Cheese-Here let's everyone know who's going to be the captain on tonights innermind journey. A little multi-note jam at 1:26 confirms everone's suspicion: if you ain't here you ain't Here.
My groin starts to tingle at 3:15 when Brent lets everyone know who will handling the chores on the keys that night. I'm calling Violin Lee Blues regardless of the idiot at 4:02 who calls out for "Speedo". What can you do---morons wherever you go. The Gang raps up a very fine C/T at 4:35. A few moments later I realize I have the "Bucket" of my dreams hauling me up and out and I know everything is going to be alright...


TOOTMO

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 16, 2010 9:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

"It turns this somewhat decent, if mellow affair, into a rather not worthy listening experience"

Gotta love that phrase, eh?

Damn, just when Rob ducks off the Big Board, this gem of the English language comes along to make you think "yes, I can write as good...good (hmmm...'well'?) enough to put together that tome on my experiences here at the Forum and eventually land on the coach--whoops!--couch with Oprah"

And, I love the new one: "haties of the eighties"

Most excellent.

Put me down for a "fan of early era span" (okay, we gotta do better than that...yuck).

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 16, 2010 10:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

A self-permeating appreciation that envelops all things on the curve of deadness.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Feb 16, 2010 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

Dead man's curve?

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Poster: cush212 Date: Feb 16, 2010 1:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

Or is the curvy man dead???

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Poster: Ernie Bo-Peep Date: Feb 16, 2010 6:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

Perhaps, but the fat man certainly is. GRHS

1987 is an excellent year but many songs were kept short, clean and precise. Well, as precise as the GD could muster.
A Truckin' without an outro jam just doesn't do it for me.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 16, 2010 12:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

Ah, I take it as a very good sign, my friend, that things that matter are keeping you from your beloved friends and associates here at the Forum, and thus, though pained by your absence, I take comfort in that inference. On the other hand, if you are just fiddling about, wasting your time, well--I guess I am okay with that too since I have hardly been here waiting for you as regularly as I might have been.

It's too warm and beautiful hereabouts, even for a broken down old biologist like me, to keep from being out as much as possible. At least as often as the keepers will allow.

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Poster: bbbrew Date: Feb 16, 2010 4:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

"It's too warm and beautiful hereabouts, even for a broken down old biologist like me, to keep from being out as much as possible. At least as often as the keepers will allow"

"Field trips my boy, field trips". That was a great quote you made awhile back. I could hear a Foghorn Leghorn voice with that one. Whenever you mention biology I'm reminded of my zoology prof. at Fullerton College in '86. He always wore a GD tour shirt on lab Fridays. You remind me of him. Good memories. I know this is facebooky, hope you don't mind, just thought Id mention it.
I saw you mentioned an upcoming knee surgury, best of health and recovery Will.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 16, 2010 8:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

Go Titans!

Kind words; always recall a fellow b-ball player at Cal that was from SoCal, and he was rooting for you all in 78 when you almost went all the way...even brought me a tshirt the next year, though I hardly knew him...we played ball a few times, and it's no doubt the explanation for my sad state at this point. Trying to hold off another six months to see if some injections allow me to get a couple of yrs more before replacement. Thanks again.

Oh, and yeah--the kids always tolerate my 60s references, and allusions to the DEAD on field trips. I always ask the ones I get to know if they recognize mt girl and Jerry from the photo on my lab door, but no one does.

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Poster: bbbrew Date: Feb 17, 2010 7:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

I never did ask the prof. about his concert days. Wish I had. He had posters in his office too. I was just too young and intimidated. That was a very stressful course, moreso for him than us Im sure. For some reason it was decided to combine 2 semesters of curriculum into one. A long-haired Deadhead adult was a very rare bird in those days and in that area. I bet he was a very cool fella on a personal level.

Yup, round-ball sure can play havoc on the knees. Cross-country and track in my case. I'm starting to feel the mileage in the pins these days. Good luck with the shots, they do wonders those days. I had one in the neck a year ago and it worked very well.

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Poster: cush212 Date: Feb 16, 2010 1:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

Brother Tell... I made a brilliant discovery here just recently for those of us who may be somewhat challenged in the spelling dept... Just right click on the underlined word and it will show the correct spelling & fix it! Go figger huh? Uh oh, no excuses now, should of kept my trap shut!!!

Beautiful weather here in SD today too... I'm loving it! Weatherman yesterday said it's going to be HOT!!! (80-85) inland... Now I remember this time of year in Phoenix it still has to get into the 90's to be "unseasonably warm"... I do miss Tempe, but I ain't gonna miss the heat!!!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 16, 2010 8:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

Ha--yep, supposedly if I was using a better system, it'd work for me too!

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Poster: dogsinapile! Date: Feb 16, 2010 11:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

There is a Jan & Dean Box Set coming soon from our friends at Rhino...
http://www.rhino.com/shop/product/jan-dean-carnival-of-sound?format=enhcd

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 16, 2010 12:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey Wordsmith ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USFEZ_aMw74

w/ The Weight for good measure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyXOjiVhH5U&;;NR=1

Check the latter out just for RT on the Chester verse...

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Feb 16, 2010 3:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey Wordsmith ....

Senor Diablo, you know what I like! What a wonderful, died and gone to heaven line up that is, and basically not an ego in sight. Wonderful to see Basher and Costello playing together again. I'm a big fan of Larry Campbell and very much regret the fact that Phil abandoned the Campbell/Greene incarnation of the Friends for the Further gravy train.

Here's a couple for you. I think we might have shared the second one before, but surely worth another look (for the glancing GD relevance Hornsby is present)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVpLi1iJH7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqKjUxHLVkg

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 16, 2010 10:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey Wordsmith ....

Thanks. We have, but if turns on one lone deadhead to the majesty that is RT, then job well done. Word is that he is doing mini-tour now (next week is GAMH - hope to go) but will do full blown US tour next fall with UK/Europe to follow in 2011. It's so great how he keeps on going STRONG and continuing to deliver material that is as fresh and as inspired as what came in the past.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Feb 16, 2010 8:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

Well apparently Longnstrange doesn't completely understand how things work. That review is from the 5th different transfer of that particular show and has only been here for about a month. That said the other versions only have about 10 reviews, although two are from some of my favorite reviewers.

Reviewer: capn doubledose - - August 10, 2005
Subject: No question this is tinny - so go the equalizer and turn the high end down
This is not a bad show at all - good stuff. Listen you will see great fckn rooster, stagger lee and a barnburner jack straw - Listen to Jerry on 'wish I was a headlight' on china>rider + The dew sizzzzzles - This show kicks ass in fact, this and worcester are the best shows I have heard from '87.

You are welcome to disagree however as far as I am concerned this has everything a 5 has, energy and intensity, great music, and is strong relative to its peers, forget about '87 this show stands fine alone.

Reviewer: jboyaquar - - June 14, 2005
Subject: Not my favorite recording, by a long shot. It turns this somewhat decent, if mellow affair, into a rather not worthy listening experience despite a few highlites
1st Set: After a couple of weeks off, the Dead return to a familiar stomping grounds. And stomp we will during the easy predict of "hell." Ooops, Bobby's mic is off during part of the first verse. Let's keep it 'new' by diverting our attention to those sinners in "West LA." "BIODTL" is almost too Sunday afternoon hammocky. "Stagger" lacks the bite that compels the best versions. "Rooster" oyyyyy... it's decent, but been overplayed on this tour. "Dire" is a fine change of selection, but sounds a bit too polite for my taste. Jerry sure does belt a fine climactic charge. Yes, Brent...keep that tune as "Far From Me" as possible. (OK, maybe that's a tad extreme) "Jack" brings me back to smiley land...as this version packs a punch. Ewww, how could you follow that up with "Push?" This better not end the set... After a long pause, all of our anticipations are at a high... Yep, it's the first 'Saturday' in almost a month. Too bad it's one of those lacklauster ones.

2nd set: "China" is always a step in the right direction. Jerry's notes hit the right spaces, but it's real tinny sounding, light and freckly... like annoying drizzle. "Rider" also appears sharp and strong, but the sound removes any masculine intensity. "Playin'" doesn't go to the nether spheres, but is well-played nonetheless. "Terrapin" is nothing more than standard. "Drums" is blah but "Space" messes my mind up sufficiently. It's nice and looong too (by '87 standards.) We're back on planet earth, bound for some "Truckin." This, like 'Jack' starts out meek but musters up power when needed. No outro jam whatsoever, into "Dew." Lots of effort is poured into making this a standout, it's not exactly pretty, but certainly an enviable creation. "Around" slinks, and should be a tense precursor to our main event, which is about turning on your "Lovelight." Bob's crooning, and the feet are floating... Decent version. The music barely registers on your average poignant "Black Muddy River," to end this 1st of two shows at the Frost.
Never been... is it kind?

Hmm so doubledose gives it 5 stars and jboy gives it 2. Maybe longnstrange is on to something after all.

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Poster: warpHrat Date: Feb 16, 2010 8:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: You know who you are, haties on the 80s, this review is for you

I really doubt a Saturday Supper in 1987 is a prime historical highlight to the dead, except for me being backstage that weekend.

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